Let Go of Perfection + People Pleasing

Maybe you're not doing too much because you're ambitious. Maybe you're doing too much because you're afraid of what it means if you stop.

In this episode of Trusting Her Journey, we’re getting real about the pressure to prove yourself.

So many women feel pressure to prove you're strong, smart, capable, healed, mature, faithful, productive… enough. Whether it’s showing up at work when you're running on fumes, overexplaining your choices, or saying yes when you want to say no, this pressure often comes from silent scripts we picked up along the way; scripts that tell us we have to earn love, rest, and belonging.

But what if you didn’t have to prove anything to be worthy of peace?

We’re unpacking:

• The hidden roots of performance and overgiving
• How pressure shows up in rest, relationships, and responsibilities
• Why perfectionism and people-pleasing are often trauma responses
• Gentle ways to rewrite your internal script and let rest feel safe again

This conversation is your permission slip:
You don’t have to hustle your way into being enough. You already are.

✨️ Fuel for the Road Ahead:
You don’t have to prove that you’ve healed to be loved. You don’t have to overdeliver to be valuable. Lay the pressure down.

📝 Reflection Question:
Where in my life am I performing when I could be present?

💡 Take one small step:
Choose one thing to do this week without overexplaining, overprepping, or overthinking it. Let it be gentle. Let it be enough.

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we feel to prove ourselves can show up in a way of like saying yes, when you really want to say no, but you don't say no because you don't want to seem as if you're lazy. So it's like, I'm just going to say yes, because I don't want people to think that I'm lazy because I don't want to do the extra work or, you know, so that it may look like that. It may also look like working twice as hard just to feel worthy enough. So even on the day that we should be resting, we don't. We just keep going. We keep showing up again because we feel like we're not worthy enough to take the rest. Welcome to the Trust in Her Journey podcast. I'm Felicia.

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And I'm Krystalyn.

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This podcast is a safe space for women who are carrying a lot, women who are trying to trust themselves again while managing the weight of their roles and responsibilities.

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We know what it's like to feel stretched thin because you're constantly showing up for everyone and putting your own needs last. Here, we have honest conversations about the silent struggles many women face.

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We're so glad you're here. In every episode, we'll talk about the real challenges women navigate, whether it's juggling work and family, We'll see

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you next time. everyone else, you're in the right place.

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Just a quick heads up. This podcast isn't a substitute for working with a licensed counselor or therapist. But don't worry, if you need that kind of support, we've got some resources for you in the show notes. Let's start the conversation. Welcome back to Trust in Her Journey. If this is your first time here, we're so glad you found your way to this space. And if you have been on this journey with us, you already know we're keeping it honest today. But before we begin, because Krystalyn always asks me how I'm doing, I'm going to uno reverse and start with her. How are you today? I

SPEAKER_01 2:33

don't. think i have anything to complain about let me think no okay okay i'm feeling good and i'm grateful so we have no complaints

SPEAKER_02 2:47

good again i love that question do i have anything to complain about so i'm gonna for sure use that because i do feel that sometimes you know when people ask like how are you doing what's been going on we're looking for something to say um as if we are afraid to say that things are good like i'm i'm feeling good i have no complaints so i'm going to steal that from you thank you for sharing that

SPEAKER_01 3:16

you're welcome well it helps to just kind of put me in a space of gratitude not that my complaints aren't um worth mentioning because i know i shared them with you you would listen you'd be supportive

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yes

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um but i also too challenge myself when someone asks me how i'm doing to or feeling to actually take a minute to think about it instead of just giving that generic oh i'm good i'm all right

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Yes. Yeah. No, that's true. I've been working on that as well. Not always saying I'm good if I'm not good, but also acknowledging when I do feel good or the moments that I'm experiencing joy. So holding space for all of the things and not just one or the other.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. Yeah. you want to let the guests know what we're going to be talking about today

SPEAKER_02 4:10

yeah so today we are having a conversation about just the the pressure to prove yourself and i know that we have all probably been in this space before uh in some experience in our lives where we have felt this unspoken or even spoken pressure to prove our worth to prove that we are good enough to prove that we are doing And sometimes it shows up so much so where we're like seeking perfection. So I am 100% like excited to have this conversation with you. again, cause I can relate in so many ways. And I think even when we were having like the pre episode conversation that you and I kind of dive into just speaking on what that looks like as just like a entrepreneur or a business owner. And for me, I feel like there is this pressure to prove that I can get it right, that I know how to run a business. Um, That I know how to show up in multiple roles, whether that is the CEO or the therapist or the admin person, in some cases, you know, like just feeling the pressure to show up and get it right and prove that I am supposed to be in this space. It can be a lot. And so I'm excited to have this conversation because we have talked about ways in which we can move beyond. on trying to prove or even add extra pressure on ourselves. What about you? Do you, do you feel like you can relate to this topic at all?

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Well, yeah, I've definitely felt that too. This pressure to prove to myself that I know what I'm doing, prove to the people who are waiting for me to show up for them. Right. That's a, that is, um, something that I am reminded and sometimes remind myself of, right? So there are some people who are waiting for me to show up for me to, whether it be my kid waiting for me to finish recording so I can fix her lunch or the women who I know God has called me to support and speak to, whether it be through emails or one-on-one sessions or social media posts, right? So there's a responsibility we have to show up that comes with some pressure sometimes and we don't even realize we're carrying it I can remember times where I would like over prepare for even you know recording today I could the another version of me could have spent way too much time over preparing just for this conversation when I why would I need to put myself through that when this is something I live? So I don't, there's no preparation that needs to be done in a way that's going to be all consuming. We want to be thoughtful. We want to be intentional, but I think sometimes for me, that was even mass work. I'm just trying to do things with excellence. So that's why, right. About the overthinking stuff last time. So I didn't even realize I was really trying to prove that. to myself and maybe other people that I was capable, that I knew what I was doing. That was worthy of the, oh, Crystal, thank you so much for the blah, blah, blah that you helped me with, right? Yes. Like, oh, that's a lot. You don't realize it in the moment, but I want to be able to help them again next time, right? Each client that comes every week, you want to be able to make sure that they experience some sort of breakthrough or have an aha moment. That's a lot of pressure. And so- some of the silent struggles that we face as women and we face as clinicians is definitely real and something that we have to constantly be working through.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Yeah. And if you feel as if the stories that we shared aren't ones that you may be experienced, we do want to kind of give you some examples of what the pressure to prove yourself could look like in real life. And so outside of what we kind of explained as just like mothers, you know, therapists or even entrepreneurs, sometimes the pressure that we we feel to prove ourselves can show up in a way of like saying yes, when you really want to say no, but you don't say no because you don't want to seem as if you're lazy. So it's like, I'm just going to say yes, because I don't want people to think that I'm lazy because I don't want to do the extra work or, you know, so that it may look like that. It may also look like working twice as hard just to feel worthy enough. So even on the days that we should be resting. We don't, we just keep going. We keep showing up again because we feel like we're not worthy enough to take the rest. And that comes from trying to prove that, you know, I can keep going. I can grind. I can

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hustle. I got this.

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I got this. If I really need to, I can

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do it. Yeah.

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It may also look like just, I think over explaining, which we talked about this last week in the overthinking conversation, but just over explaining your decisions because you're afraid that someone will think that you have changed or you're too much. whatever that's supposed to mean because you

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know yeah yeah

SPEAKER_02 10:01

that's annoying in itself like you're too much um and then when you are actually focused on growing and maybe becoming a different version of yourself sometimes people don't really like that and so you're over explaining why you are doing the inner work you're over explaining why you made the decision that you made,

SPEAKER_01 10:25

um, to stop going places to stop, to disconnect from certain people. Yeah. All of that. Um, so you do lose something when you start to, uh, rediscover who you are when you were in a place where you are trusting your own path, your own journey. A lot of people aren't going to be okay with that. So it definitely, um, It definitely helps you to feel this pressure to even try to figure out, okay, did I make the best decision? Because I decided I wanted to let go of certain things, certain relationships. I wanted to live my life a different way. And now I feel this pressure because I'm being either left out, feeling left out. That's something that's not easy for a lot of us to, we're not okay with that all the time. You can make a decision and you know it's the best decision for you. But then still there's this question of if I made the right decision because I do feel this pressure of trying to belong. Maybe that's the phrase I'm looking for. You want to belong. So if I'm honest, that's exhausting. Girl. That is exhausting. Even trying to process that is exhausting. Yeah. trying to prove that you're smart enough, that you healed enough, that you mature enough, that you've grown enough, that you are faithful enough, that you know enough scripture. All of these things, it's hard when the truth is I'm actually good just as I am. There's always room for growth. There's always room for me to make progress. But the way I am today is It's enough.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah. It's, it's kind of like, yes, there is always room for growth or just to improve. But sometimes I feel like we want to grow every single day. Like

SPEAKER_01 12:25

we want all the

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time. That's exhausting. And I think that that also plays into the idea of like feeling pressure to prove that you you aren't the same, that you can grow, that you can evolve. And yes, that's exhausting. It's just

SPEAKER_01 12:45

too much. Yeah. I think it's okay to, you know, want to be a greater person. more powerful, more confident, more peaceful, joyful person, especially if you've experienced trauma or drama or toxic situations in life. I think it's okay to want to move forward past those things that you've overcome. And because that can be so exhausting, I think a lot of times, you tell me if you can relate, I think a lot of times this pressure to even perfect the healing journey or the growth process helps Yeah. Yeah. definitely makes the pool of people that you choose to date smaller because there's certain things you're not going to tolerate anymore if you once tolerate it. If you are on a job and you've decided, you know what? Yeah, it's too much pressure for me to show up perfect and for me to make sure I can do everything perfectly all the time. I can't stay in this lane anymore. I got to do something different, right? That might mean you are out of work or not working the kind of job that you will want to for a long So there's so many things at risk. And I think that's how a lot of women, why a lot of women end up in the space where they just stay because it's safer. It's more familiar. It's more comfortable. Yeah. And yeah. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 14:30

No, I agree. I do think that women. I always kind of had this conversation with clients around like when we're constantly like in this space of I need to do the work, I need to do the work at all times or forever in my healing journey where I'm like doing deep work. When do you actually stop and enjoy the work that you have done?

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Exactly.

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So it's like, yes, you can. Always work on your confidence, your self-esteem, like communication skills, showing up in the way that you want to. And when do you actually take the time to reap some of the benefits of the work that you have already done? Yeah. Yeah. Like what you have done is enough right now. So let's celebrate. Enjoy this

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part. Yeah.

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Enjoy that.

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Yeah. Enjoy where you are. You've done so much hard work. So enjoy that. the fruits of your labor. Is that still an expression that people still say that?

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Exactly. No, I say that.

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Yeah. You've worked so hard. So enjoy the hard work that you, that may not look the way other people think it should look right.

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Yes.

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Being okay with that is hard. Some of us have been taught that love and acceptance, even safety only comes through how well we perform, how often we show up. how much money we give right how much we do for other people yeah the performance and so I think what I want women to know is that we can start today we can start living a life that looks like I'm going to accept who I am where I am right now in this moment today perfection is not my goal Perfection is not my goal. I just want to accept who I am right now. Do I have areas I want to grow in? Sure. Of course I do. But it's okay to take my time

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to

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get there.

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What if, you know, like, because I do feel that even when we acknowledge those things or the ways in which we are like over performing or we're working extremely hard to perform, we also know that, and I'm pretty sure that you would agree with this as well, in the profession that we are in, we often hear like, it is hard for me to move past this. It's hard for me to not do this because I've always been taught this. I've always heard this. So it's kind of like these, internal narratives or scripts that we are operating out of and so even in those moments like how how would you help someone kind of maybe recognize that it is an internal shift that they are maybe or I'll say internal narrative that they are kind of hearing and and then how can we get out of that like in what ways could we share how they can kind of move beyond that

SPEAKER_01 17:46

right so i think the first thing is to identify what some of those the silent scripts are so things you maybe tell yourself I've been telling yourself you picked up along the way or even things that you've been told as a child or things you've heard things you come to believe as true right you can't rest until everything is done if you say no then this person or that person is going to be disappointed don't embarrass the family we don't talk about how we feel what goes on in this house stays in this house all of those kind of things become a part of who you are. And it's first important to know or decide if those are scripts or narratives you want to hold on to. yes do you want to keep them because you have a choice obviously when we were kids we didn't have much of a choice or a choice but now we're grown grown okay we can decide because those scripts they don't just influence or affect how we act but they shape how we see ourselves and i need to know i mean just like if you take parenting for example right and we need to know like if if You were taught that you had to clean your plate, for example, or else. Now, we know what the or else might have meant. Do you want to raise your kid to feel like they have to clean their plate or else? And that's a small example. It might be big to some, but that's a small example, right? If what you were taught was what happens in your house and our house stays in the house, well, what does that mean? Because there's a difference between things being private and private. You needing to say or share what's happening because you need to pour or someone else has access to resources that you don't have. Right. So do you want to hold on to these things as your truth now that you're grown, grown?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Do you want to hold on to those things?

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And if you say or answer yes to, I actually do want to release them, I no longer want to hold on to them, then a shift that you can start to kind of like say to yourself or embody is yes. you are allowed to rewrite those scripts. Like you're allowed to say, this isn't the story I want to live my life by anymore. I actually want something different for me. I don't want to perform. I just want to exist. I just want to be, I don't want to feel like I always have to be on or get it right.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yes, that's true. Also, when you decided there's a boundary you're going to set, saying no to someone, deciding you're not going to, if they say, well, who can, you don't have to be the one to raise your hand, right? Who can't fill in the blank? You don't have to be one to raise your hand. So even that, is the beginning of a breakthrough was for me at least once I decided I'm going to practice not being the one to save the day I'm going to practice not being the one to raise my hand and volunteer that was so powerful for me I took what actually helped me to take some of the power back that I had given away in my time too if I'm honest because I was over giving to a point of being burnout so I wasn't even giving from a place of love I was giving from a place of um feeling all sacrificing myself, sacrificing my time and my energy. And so I had to reclaim that by just saying, I deserve the rest too. Some of these people who are not raising their hands or volunteering, maybe they onto something. I was thinking, how dare they not volunteer? How dare they? Well, maybe they were onto something that I was, I just was too late to figure out that it is okay to not say no, it is okay to let someone else step in and do the things. And I think for me, that's when the shift started to take place because I can now, there's some of the pressure, I'll put it that way. Some of the pressure was lifted.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

So that's where, do you feel like that is the space where you started to release the guilt or-

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Yes and no. So I think if we think about the scripts, the things that we tell ourselves because either it was told to us or we just came to believe it on our own, guilt comes up when I think I've done something bad or wrong, right? That's what guilt is technically for. Well, that's the actual literal definition of it. So if I feel like saying no is wrong because that's the narrative right in my head, I need to be the one to volunteer and help and show up, then some of that guilt is still going to kind of linger. So I don't want women to think that they need to wait until there's an absence of guilt before they do the thing they know is best for them.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Yes.

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Because you may still feel a little of that because for so long you've been doing things one way.

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Yeah.

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So don't wait until you don't feel guilty. Acknowledge the guilt. I feel guilty or I feel bad for saying no or for not showing up or for not doing whatever the thing is because of the story I tell myself about why I shouldn't have stopped in the first place. I should have been saying yes all of this time.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

I've been saying yes all this time. Excuse me. I've been saying yes all this time because I was I thought I needed to, I thought I needed to show up for everyone. Now I'm realizing I don't have to show up for everybody. So yeah, I might feel a little guilty about that at first, but over time, right, what we're, what we're waiting for is for the guilt to lessen over time. Um, I'm going to feel less guilty because I'm now reminding myself, oh, yeah, I can serve from a place of being full of energy and peace and joy because I've taken care of myself first. I can serve from a place of overflow because I poured into me as opposed to always only pouring into other people and leaving nothing for yourself.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

So we're talking about self-love is really what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Yes. And what it also sounds like is you really came to a place in your life where you were like, I truly deserve like peace and not just to be productive, not to always volunteer, not to always raise my hand, not to always be there for other people, which is means I don't have to prove that I'm worthy of peace. I don't have to prove that I deserve a break. I just deserve it because I want it. I

SPEAKER_01 24:23

deserve it. Because of who I am, because of my existence, you know, from a clinical perspective. I know that that was the overgiving, the showing up all the time, the not being able to say no was a trauma response. Absolutely. Perfectionism, overachieving, people pleasing. They're all survival

SPEAKER_02 24:44

strategies. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Yes. It's what we learn to do to stay safe, to stay connected to people. We think it's what we need to do to feel love, to be supported. I can't risk not being loved. I can't risk them not wanting me around so i gotta show up i gotta you keep we'll go back to that word perform again right yeah and i've supported so many women who didn't even realize that's what they were doing um saying women who said like i feel useless i feel like i don't have worth or value if i can't be the one to do whatever it is being that's being asked of me um so And it's not that we are lazy when we say no. Sometimes, yeah, it is, we're tired. But so many of us have been in like the survival mode for so long, we didn't even realize it. So giving yourself permission to do less, period.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

That's it. It's

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not going to be comfortable at first. It's so freeing to learn that you can still do things with excellence by sending people to voicemail.

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Yep.

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You can still, as a matter of fact, you're going to be better at your job when you use the PTO that people gave you. Why do we think-

SPEAKER_02 26:01

I don't understand why we're hoarding PTO in 2025. No one should be hoarding their PTO, okay?

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I'm not really sure what that's- Well, I have my ideas. We'll talk about that in another episode.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yeah, but bottom line, listen, you do not need to prove to those people that you should take that time off. You have earned that time off. Take- the time

SPEAKER_01 26:22

all you know some jobs give you they distribute the days some people give it to you for like they give you all your days at the top of the year and some jobs give it to you give you a day a month yeah there's something to that there's something behind that somewhere someone and someone else might be listening and say no this is the real reason but to me in my mind if I'm on a job and they gave me a day a month I'm gonna take my day Yeah. I'm going to take my day. Yeah. Obviously they know someone knew or someone decided, okay, if you give people an extra day a month or so, they can either take it, they can let it build up. Right. So they can take a week off

SPEAKER_00 27:02

in the summer

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or Christmas or whatever. But most of the time, most people need that one day to do nothing.

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Yeah.

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To do nothing.

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Yeah.

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And be okay with doing nothing.

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Yeah. And be okay with doing nothing. Knowing that sometimes your best is not going to always look picture perfect. And that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Yes. I agree. So in therapy, here are some things that we kind of like, we share with our clients and we also wanted to share it with you all in hopes that it will help. So if you are still in this space where you are, again, trying to shift the narrative or shift some of those internal scripts that you are hearing or that you are operating out of, this is something that we would encourage you to do. So the first thing that we would say is like, Identify where you learn that you had to be more to be enough. So like, where does that come from? And it's not something that you have to jump and answer, like really give yourself the time and the space to really just like process that.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

But answer it though. but answer it no we're

SPEAKER_02 28:18

not saying skip it but just like sit with it so don't skip it but sit with it and really think through like you know when what is this voice that I'm hearing or when did I start to believe that I had to give more or be more to be enough

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and

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then another thing that I would encourage you to do and then I'll let Crystal Lynn share if she wants to add anything else is to practice rest and enoughness as a radical healing tool. So If any of my clients are listening or people that I've ever come into like any type of contact with or communication with through email, I am always preaching. You need to rest and rest can look different in so many ways. And we'll talk about that. I think in like two, maybe it's coming up in this season,

SPEAKER_01 29:12

but go sit down somewhere that you've seen it. Nice. Let me just, I know I'm just, I'm

SPEAKER_02 29:17

trying to, you know, we have to, we have to be gentle with the people we have to be a little gentle in the beginning you know part of therapy we're building rapport and then we can start to say

SPEAKER_01 29:30

girl go sit down but i mean yeah but literally literally yeah yeah that's i really do think that that is when you said um to sit with it that is the question we want to ask ourselves because also like who's if it's something that I'm telling myself whose voice is it my voice

SPEAKER_02 29:52

yeah

SPEAKER_01 29:52

is that my voice now I do believe that something like used to be like our mama voice or yeah a grandparent's voice and now it sounds like us it's loud sounds like us but then the next part would be okay is this something that I want to hold on to

SPEAKER_02 30:07

yes

SPEAKER_01 30:07

is this a script or narrative I want to hold on to I get it I love my mom or I love my grandma whoever taught you this thing we love them but is this something that I want to hold on to right because maybe it's something they passed down to you because they thought it was best most of the time that was true

SPEAKER_02 30:25

and maybe they passed that down to you because they were also experiencing something different in life their resources were different their the times were different and now you are in a space where you get to redefine is this a voice that actually or is this a script a voice a narrative that aligns with me and who I i'm trying to become

SPEAKER_01 30:47

that's exactly right so let me speak to the woman who's listening right now and she's trying to do everything right she's trying to well she's trying to do everything yeah and she's trying to do everything right you've been showing up you've been helping everyone you've been trying not to disappoint other people you've been trying not to disappoint yourself you've been trying not to disappoint god but deep down you are tired and You're afraid to slow down because you feel like if you rest, if you take a break, you're going to be failing. Something is not going to get done. The ball is going to drop. All of these things that are not helpful, but this is what you've been telling yourself. You are still valuable, not because of what you do, but because of who you are, because of who God created you to be, period. You don't have to earn love. You don't have to prove your worth. You don't have to prove your value. You do not have to be perfect to be seen. That was never a requirement for any of us. Ephesians chapter 2 verses 8 through 9 says, it is by grace you have been saved through faith, not by works. So God didn't create us to try to carry everything on our own. I'm going to always say that. He did not create us to perform.

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we

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couldn't y'all isn't there's not enough we could do not we couldn't do we could not do enough in 10 lifetimes to earn god's grace but just because of who we are he loves us that's it his love is not conditional it is constant though so you don't have to do more just to be loved you already are loved

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That was it. Oh, okay. Just hold on to that, that you are already loved. You are already worthy. You are enough and you do not have to prove anything. Lay it down. Hold on to that. But before we go, we always love to give you just like a rest stop, some fuel to help you on the road ahead, especially as it relates to laying down the pressure that you are feeling to prove, do more or be more. So let's take a moment to pause together. This is your rest stop before reentering your day. Again, we just want to remind you that you don't have to prove anything to be enough you already are so we do have a reflection question that we want to leave you with in addition to the questions that we shared before so if you need to go back and write down that question definitely do so but then also we want to give you another one just to hold you over until the next episode so the question is where in my life am I performing when I could be present I'm gonna have to answer that one myself because a lot is coming to the top for me so yeah I'm going to have to sit with that and I may share on the next episode what you know what

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came up for me or maybe even think about I want to challenge I'm going to challenge myself challenge Felicia and challenge our listeners to choose one thing to do without over explaining without Over perfecting it.

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Okay.

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Let it be gentle. Let it be enough.

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Okay. All right. So we just want to say thank you so much for tuning in to this episode. Again, if this is your first time, we hope that you stay. We want you to become family like the rest of us. And again, we just want to remind you that you do not have to earn rest or love. You already carry it within you.

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All right. Thank y'all for listening. We'll see you next time.

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